Apparently photo shopped Birther sign |
Here is some interesting independent information regarding the birth of our current American President, Barack Hussein Obama.
I came across this information last April 16th (2010) from Kenya's Parliament public files of their March 25, 2010 Public Session and downloaded it, only to have that document vanish and be replaced by a new Summary Document, which both differed from all other documents in their Archives and did not have the below Parliamentary quote.
Now, today, I have found that this original Kenyan Parliamentary Session Minutes have been restored and are available for you to read.
HURRY BEFORE THEY ARE REMOVED AGAIN!
http://www.statehousekenya.go.ke/
Go to top menu - middle of page:
CLICK ON Government
Go to next to bottom of page:
CLICK ON NATIONAL ASSEMBLY
Go to bottom right hand side of page:
Contact Information
Parliament Buildings, Parliament Road,
P. 0. Box 41842 - 00100, Nairobi
Telephone: 221291
Fax: 243694
Telegrams: "BUNGE"
Email: bunge@swiftkenya.com
CLICK ON Website: www.parliament.go.ke
brings you to:
http://www.parliament.go.ke/
Go to top menu - middle of page:
CLICK ON HANSARD (middle of page)
CLICK ON Hansard Plenary 2010
brings you to:
http://www.parliament.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91&Itemid=84
Hansard 25.03.10 (Actual Link)
What does this say?
Go to page 31:
"The other thing that we are addressing through devolution is exclusion. What has made us suffer as a nation is exclusion. Once people feel excluded, even when you want to employ a policeman or constable or you want to build a dispensary, it must come from the centre. In the colonial days, these things were being done on the ground and they could give bursaries and build roads. I commend devolution. Those who fear devolution are living in the past. They are being guided by their ethnic consideration and objectives. They are living in the past. If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion;" Hansard 25.03.10
Ok, what do we make of this?
While the sign might be photo shopped, this is a real Kenyan Parliament Legal Document, recording Parliamentary discussions.
Either, the document and its statements are inaccurate, and Kenyan politicians are simply using this as a political device for their own benefits, Or, it is true and accurate, and the Kenyan government has reasonable information to believe it to be accurate.
There have been Hawaiian Election Officials who have declared Obama was not born in Hawaii. And, others who have forwarded supposed Kenyan Birth Certificates trying to show he was born there. But, none of this is proof.
So, perhaps others or even some Kenyans can help determine the validity of his birth there, or someone in Hawaii can finally find Obama's Birth Certificate. After all, it is a very small island with only 370,000 people.
Second, if Obama was born in Kenya, and not the United States, the real question is "does this disqualify him from the POTUS (President of the United States)?" That is also a hazy question and answer, and has been asked once before of an American President. Chester A. Arthur (1829–1886), 21st president of the United States, was rumored to have been born in Canada.10, 11
And, "Barry Goldwater (1909–1998) was born in Phoenix, in what was then the incorporated Arizona Territory of the United States. During his presidential campaign in 1964, there was a minor controversy over Goldwater's having been born in Arizona when it was not yet a state" 10
If we read Jus Sanguinis, America, like many nations, allows its citizens to bear children in other countries, and those children still qualify as American citizens.
From Wikipedia:
Statute, by parentage
Under certain circumstances, U.S. citizenship can be acquired from one's parents. The following conditions affect children born outside the U.S. and its outlying possessions to married parents (special conditions affect children born out of wedlock: see below):[5]- If both parents are U.S. citizens, the child is a citizen if either of the parents has ever lived in the U.S. prior to the child's birth
- If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is a U.S. national, the child is a citizen if the U.S. citizen parent has lived in the U.S. for a continuous period of at least one year prior to the child's birth
- If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if
- the U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present"[6] in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and
- at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday.
My discussion: We know Obama's father was still married back in Kenya after Obama's birth. Obama's father had told Ann that he was previously married, and told her that he had fully divorced his previous wife. But, later she would find out that he had lied to her about this. So, it was not until President Obama was much older that his mother learned he was legally born out of wedlock.
Wikipedia continued:
Children born overseas out of wedlock
There is an asymmetry in the way citizenship status of children born overseas to unmarried parents, only one of whom is a U.S. citizen, is handled.Title 8 U.S.C. § 1409 paragraph (c) provides that children born abroad after December 24, 1952 to unmarried American mothers are U.S. citizens, as long as the mother has lived in the U.S. for a continuous period of at least one year at any time prior to the birth.
8 U.S.C. § 1409 paragraph (a) provides that children born to American fathers unmarried to the children's non-American mothers are considered U.S. citizens only if the father meets the "physical presence" conditions described above, and the father takes several actions:
- Unless deceased, has agreed to provide financial support to the child until he reaches 18,
- Establish paternity by clear and convincing evidence and, while the person is under the age of 18 years
- the person is legitimated under the law of the person’s residence or domicile,
- the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
- the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.
This distinction between unwed American fathers and American mothers was constructed and reaffirmed by Congress out of concern that a flood of illegitimate Korean and Vietnamese children would later claim American citizenship as a result of their parentage by American servicemen overseas fighting wars in their countries.[citation needed] In many cases, American servicemen passing through in wartime may not have even learned they had fathered a child.[citation needed] In 2001, the Supreme Court, by 5-4 majority in Tuan Anh Nguyen v. INS, first established the constitutionality of this gender distinction.[7][8]
Eligibility for office of President
According to the Constitution of the United States only natural born citizens are eligible to serve as President of the United States or as Vice President. The text of the Constitution does not define what is meant by natural born: in particular it does not specify whether there is any distinction to be made between persons whose citizenship is based on jus sanguinis (parentage) and those whose citizenship is based on jus soli (birthplace)As a result, controversies have erupted over the eligibility of a number of candidates for the office. These questions arise particularly when a candidate is an American citizen by jus sanguinis birthright, but was born outside of the territory of the United States.[citation needed]
~ ~ ~Democratic National Party Conspiracy ~ ~ ~ Democratic National Party Conspiracy ~ ~ ~
It may be too late to do anything about Obama's presidency, even if this is found to be true and of issue. Democrats control the Senate where Impeachment has to Approved and the Impeachment Trial must take place. There is little chance 51 Democrats will ever allow that to occur. Fortunately, many states are initiating State Laws requiring Proof of Citizenship prior to a Candidate being placed on a Ballet.
But, we do know that the National Democratic Party and Nancy Pelosi knew that Obama had legal issues surrounding his parentage and birth and thus in conspiracy modified Constitutionally mandated Electoral College documentation in order to hide this information.
So, what do we know?
1 We do NOT know where Barack Hussein Obama was born. And, possibly not even when he was born.
2 We do know that he was born out of wedlock to an American mother.
3 We do know that this should still make him an American Citizen.
4 We do NOT know if this confers eligibility to POTUS, or not depending the Constitutional interpretation of accepting jus sanguini, or not.
5 We do know that the Democratic National Party knew about this information, and possibly much more, and then conspired to keep this Constitutionally Mandated Qualification information from the public by subtly altering documentation for the purpose of deceiving the public.
So, you be the Judge, because Nancy Pelosi and her Democratic Party won't let the American Legal system do its job to uphold and protect the Constitution and allow the American People be the judge!
God Bless America!
- ^ See 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(36) and 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(38) Providing the term “State” and "United States" definitions on the U.S. Federal Code, Immigration and Nationality Act 8 U.S.C. § 1101a.
- ^ Weiner 1998, p. 238.
- ^ a b Meese 2005, p. 35
- ^ INA: ACT 302 - PERSONS BORN IN PUERTO RICO , U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
- ^ 8 U.S.C. § 1401
- ^ including, in some circumstances, time spent overseas when a parent who is a U.S. government employee is posted overseas
- ^ a b Findlaw.com: Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53 (2001)
- ^ a b Cornell University Law School: Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53 (2001).
- ^ Under a fact situation similar to Nguyen, the effect might be different today if the child's 18th birthday were after February 27, 2001, as per the Child Citizenship Act of 2000, the child might automatically become a U.S. citizen upon admission to the country as a lawful permanent resident. This type of citizenship, however, is not considered "birthright" or natural, and the subject would most likely be construed as a "naturalized" citizen. See the U.S. Department of State's page on the Child Citizenship Act of 2000.
11 ^ It should be noted that his mother, Malvina Stone Arthur, while a native of Berkshire, Vermont, moved with her family to Quebec, where she met and married the future President's father, William Arthur, on 12 April 1821. After the family had settled in Fairfield, Vermont (see below), William Arthur traveled with his eldest daughter to East Stanbridge (Canada) in October 1830 and commuted to Fairfield on Sundays to preach. "It appears that he traveled regularly between the two villages, both of which were close to the Canadian border, for about eighteen months, holding two jobs" (cf. Thomas C. Reeves, "The Mystery of Chester Alan Arthur's Birthplace", Vermont History 38, Montpelier: Vermont Historical Society, p. 295), which may well explain the confusion about Arthur's place of birth, as perhaps did the fact that he was born in Franklin County, and thus literally within a day's walk of the Vermont-Quebec border (cf. William A. DeGregorio, The Complete Book of U.S. Presidents, Random House: 1993, pp. 307-08, ISBN 0-517-08244-6).
In the present state of the Senate being Democratically controlled and enough viable proof is forth coming, then by the imperative rights of the Constitution,the people/States have, not only the right but the obligatory requirement to remove Obama from the Office of the President.
ReplyDelete@Larry, what is the "enough viable proof" that is forth coming?
ReplyDeleteYou might have a point, Larry!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Oath_Office.htm
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."